we're closing down shop. thank you for being with us tonight. go to greta wire.com there is an open thread. and tell us what you thought about the two champagnes and anything else. tell us what you thought about tonight's show. tha >> kimberly: hello. happy columbus day. i'm kimberly guilfoyle along with bob beckel, eric bolling, dana perino, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: there are new developments on the terror attack in benghazi, libya, on september 11 that we'll get to in a moment. first, romney was in lexington, virginia, today, outlining the vision of america's role in the world at the virginia military institute. the governor doesn't think that president obama is providing strong leadership. >> i know the president hopes for a safer, freer and more

prosperous middle east aligned with us. i share this hope. but hope is not a strategy. we can't support our friends and defeat our enemies in the middle east when our words are not backed up by deeds. when our defense spending is being arbitrarily and deeply cut. when we have no trade agenda to speak of. the perception of our strategy is not one of partnership, but of passivity. >> kimberly: all right. do you think this is the right message and tone? a lot of discussion whether or not romney was going to come out on top on foreign policy. generally speaking, it's been one of the strong suits of president obama, given the past developments versus recent developments. >> eric: yeah, i'm not sure it was so -- i don't know. it was okay. it was good. he hit on all the point he is needed to make. he had to do it. something people said, president obama has an ad out today saying he is weak on foreign policy, a wimp. amateurish. he wasn't amateurish. he showed some poise. hope is not a strategy was a great line.

everybody will pick it up and they should run with it. he talked about cutting off aid to egypt, which is on a lot of people's minds. if you don't get your act together, we may cut off aid. he needed to do that. he showed presidential material. as far as exciting, it wasn't very exciting. so what? he did what he had to do. >> kimberly: you brought up the aid to egypt, some consider a controversial position. strong message about the type of leadership from romney should he be elected. dana, i want to ask your opinion. >> in egypt, i'll use our influence, including clear condition on our aid to urge the new government to represent all, maintain peace treaty with israel. we must persuade our friends an allies to place similar stipulation on their aid. >> dana: overall, good timing. effective timing. if he had given the speech two

weeks ago, it would have been lost in the benghazi fall-out. looking at that. it would have been the wrong time. two weeks for foreign policy debate, that eric will go for us. he had the venue. military virginia. that was good. tone was good. to your question about what he said there, i think that president obama is vulnerable on foreign policy. if you read the speech and you care about foreign policy, you could go down each area of the world and say it would make more sense. in particular, he said i would set clear conditions. people are willing to give foreign aid. one thing they require is there be clear conditions for what standards you have to meet to get the benefit of the u.s. taxpayers helping you out. >> kimberly: do you think he hit the right tone overall? some said it was reaganesque. >> greg: it was romneyesque.

not reaganesque. i think president obama has to be good about the election today. not the american one, venezuelan one. his policies are popular somewhere. romney has distinction in foreign policy, it's this. remember who you are dealing with. obama is like me. he preferred to be cool rather than rule. he took exception to exceptionalism. what romney is saying is we're going back to the way we were. we have don't care if you don't like us. we'd rath ber respected and feared than be part of anti-bullying campaign. >> kimberly: bob, you seem enthralled. otherwise inspired. >> bob: inspired the word. dana is right. this would have been lost if not for the timing of it. not a bad delivery. this is where romney fell short. he says. he does not call for a cutoff date at all. he wants condition. a lot of people on the right want to cut off aid altogether. >> eric: wait. >> bob: por done me? >> eric: if conditions

aren't met, then what? >> bob: i don't know what that means. >> bob: if i could finish. >> eric: again, bob -- finish. okay. >> bob: he said that we should begin to supply our friends in syria, syrian revolt. which would be fine especially our closest allies like turkey don't know who the friends are and not supplying aid. time that china was becoming a regional power. same time he invests in businesses in china. >> kimberly: you're still here. letting you get the time. >> eric: the last thing i say, all the things he said are good catch phrases but he backed them up with no specifics. example what he'd do for egypt if they didn't meet the conditions he's talking about. >> greg: at least he mentioned china. the only time president obama

talks about china is when he is looking at the wilson phillips records. remember her? she was adorable. my revelation -- >> bob: who is wilson phillips? >> greg: don't worry about it. my revelation is the foreign response to romney debate, yikes in 12 languages. reassuring that governor romney has potential foreign policy powerhouse that the world is spooked by him. that is important. good to have the neighbors scared of you than the reverse. having lived in hell's kitchen that is the way to be. it's a macro hell's kitchen. crazy, creepy people out there. good they're terrified of the united states. >> bob: about romney? >> greg: spooked about anybody willing to use force rather than -- let's go back. focus on iran. remember in 2009 how president obama reacted to iran.

a muted response. then he said he was troubled. his rough stance was a frown. that is what romney is talking about. >> dana: the other thing, his message to the debate is return america to position of economic strength and growth. if you talk foreign policy, the economic policy matters because you want a strong growing america to become the lender not be the borrower. we're not on that path. romney not saying he could get it done and get us on a better path to be a stronger world player in the future. >> bob: what he said about iran, i would make the sanctions tougher. move the mediterranean fleet up near iran and the pacific fleet near iran, both have been done. >> dana: i thought you said he didn't give specifics. >> bob: he didn't.

>> dana: those sound specific. >> bob: he said i'd move the fleets but they're already there. >> dana: we could apply more pressure to friends elsewhere who are giving iran cover. >> kimberly: this is how he would handle it. the criticism president obama and the administration refusing to meet with netanyahu and impaired relations with israel. here is romney's take. >> put the leaders of iran on notice that the united states and friends and allies will prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. not hells tate time to pose sanctions on iran. tighten the sanctions we currently have. >> bob: if you want -- >> eric: if you want a lesson on difference in foreign policy between obama and romney listen to that one more time and then listen to

bombardiebombardierbarack obamat embarrassment for the exceptionalism and the reaction to 9/11 was improper. he goes on and on. apologizing for america. they can't be more different. >> dana: if you go back and look at obama speech, take time for the speech in germany running as a candidate. similar thing. >> bob: he said tighten the sanctions are there, tight. he said add additional sanction. not one thing about what they were. in terms of saying to iran you don't have nuclear capability, that's been said. >> dana: if he had something specific, the complaint would have been he is getting himself involved. >> bob: when is he going to say something specific? he didn't say it last week. >> dana: he hit it on -- >> greg: specific enough for me. >> bob: he would add

$5 trillion more to the budget. >> dana: we're going to have a fight. bob, check the internet in the day. the princeton professor today said you've been misquoting what i said about the romney plan. back off. >> bob: he defends romney and went back on his word on sunday show. you can say it both ways. obama didn't push romney to say what he'd do. >> dana: why should obama have to give more -- >> bob: he has to go to the front of the house of representatives. >> kimberly: he had hope and change but we didn't know it was change for the worse. we have new information about security at the consulate in benghazi. before the attacked that killed four americans. >> for the environment, we

felt we needed more not less. >> kimberly: more on the ground for those meeting with ambassadorsteins months before the assaults. that's next on "the five."

♪ ♪ >> greg: i love the everly brothers. the libyan mess should be a major motion picture starring george george clooney. funny those who normally care are quiet. the "washington post" ombudsman say the paper screwed up chasing the anti-muhammad video tail. why did the media blame the video instead of terror? the daily beast explains that the administration cherry picked that despite evidence to the contrary. one day after the attack aide to hillary said it was terrorism. ambassador susan rice still blamed the mob.

cnn and the rest concurred. why did they buy the lie? downplay al-qaeda and strategy for the election before protection. that may be why bob's suspenders are more secure than the consulate. maybe they want to believe the lie. it's the west that is the root of all evil, not actual evil. america is a bad guy even if the other guy threw the first punch. foreign policy is anti-bullying add for smaller, meaner country. obama spent his term raising awareness of how cool is it to blame america first. hipster diplomacy at its worst. you have incompetence in tandem. bicycle built for two with the administration and adoring media peddling the same strike. no wonder they'd rather discuss big bird than benghazi. why ruffle any real feathers? i want to go to mitt romney talking about this video. the administration blamed earlier today.

>> this latest assault can't be blamed on reprehensible video insulting islam, despite the administration attempt to convince us of that for so long. no, as the administration has finally concedeed these attacks were the deliberate work of terrorists. >> greg: eric, do you remember he came out about the egyptian embassy. they're not doing. this he got heat. isn't he -- hasn't he been proven right? >> eric: the left was complaining about the timing. interfering with president obama handling of the crisis and turns out president obama should have listened to him. >> exactly. anything that president obama does is right thing to do. anything that romney does is interfering. >> dana: but having been vindicated they go back to he

fumbled the foreign policy issue. why do they blame the video. that excuse would have been something everyone swallowed. if you have a free media and you have independent thought and you say this can't be true, news reports today concerned about security after being asked, nobody is asking where did they get the idea it's all blamed on the video? >> kimberly: you have been hanging out with greg gutfeld. >> greg: i want to go to the other stop. woods spoke to cbs about the issues with security. >> eric: for continued security, that we had, we had known.

we needed more, not less. >> experts are telling 100%s at the state -- 100% headquartes we need them. >> for what reasons i don't know. >> greg: that is harsh. >> kimberly: it's not. this is the problem with the administration. gross incompetence and naivet naivety. they are not interested in focusing in on the reality of the situation we face in the world today overseas. he said it felt like we were asked to play the piano with two fingers. concern among the embassy staff. personnel moved six months prior to terrorist attack. how can you not say this is epic fail on his watch, watch of the president and state department? it is. that is enough right there to tell you he is not ready for prime time. bin laden is dead and the rest of the world is burning. huge problem here. >> bob: whole place is

burning. >> kimberly: watch the news. >> bob: there are state controlled media -- >> dana: i said it was here. >> bob: you were talking about here. >> dana: saying they can't use the excuse. >> bob: i thought you were talking about there. first, i would say that wood makes good points but it would be better if finally for once somebody would say who they talk to and told them they couldn't have more security, one. two, the idea that somehow the media and greg, you said that obama and media blamed the west first. we are the great horrors in the world. i doubt that is accurate statement. do you think they get cbs, abc and nbc get on the phone in the morning with the white house and decide this is what we'll do? this is our plan? >> greg: they don't have to. they went to the same school. take the same classes. >> bob: they think the west -- >> greg: 90% of the professors in academia think that way.

>> eric: when we first speculate we thought this would get bigger and there could be a paper trail, you said i'm not sure there is anyone admitting to that. now people on camera saying we did request more security. we were denying it. now you want to know exactly who they -- >> kimberly: state department. >> eric: how many more pieces of evidence before you say that and that it's been coverup. >> bob: first. coverup is inconceivable idea in something this big. >> kimberly: incompetence or coverup. >> bob: it may be incompetence. we'll find out in the hearing. the idea that this was collusion of people coming together, two or three hundred coming up with a conspiracy is the most ridiculous uninformed comment -- >> eric: ambassador rice five talk shows five days after we know she knew it was not in response. >> bob: she did not know. >> dana: why didn't she

know? >> bob: you think ambassador rice participated in a cove coverup? >> kimberly: given her marching orders -- >> eric: unlikely -- >> bob: for the record, ambassador rice -- >> eric: i think there will be a smoking gun e-mail at some point that proves all of this. >> kimberly: she had to give talking points to cover for administration. >> bob: you're saying, too, there was a coverup? >> kimberly: i'm giving you options. >> dana: that or gross incompetence. >> i'll say it. i think it's a coverup. >> kimberly: i think it's both. >> greg: listen, because i mean this memo where they have options and they choose to say it's the video and blaming it on a memo that appeared. smells funny. >> bob: you don't like the video, i would like one person, just one on the record to say -- >> kimberly: let me tell you something. house oversight committee will hear this. lieutenant colonel andy woods asking for it. you the state department regional security officer,

nordstrom and ambassadorsteins making repeated requests to keep the security there, denied by the state departmen department. have you read the research? >> bob: i read the research. >> kimberly: this isn't speculation. >> bob: it is. >> greg: coming up, the joke was on him. he mocks his performance at hollywood. some indicate that the debate disaster was no laughing matter with the american people. if you leave now i will shave kimberly's head. >> kimberly: no. >> greg: yes! ♪ ♪

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music. >> greg: no. >> dana: president obama in hollywood this weekend for another star-studded rundraiser. this one involved george clooney. jon bon jovi, katy perry and stevie wonder. the president addressed his debate performance with some self-deprecating humor. >> everybody here is incredible professionals, great friends and they just perform flawlessly, night after night. i can't always say the same. >> dana: the president admits the flaws and robert gibbs blames romney saying he was dishonest. >> governor romney had a masterful, theatrical performance this past week. the underpinnings and foundation of the performance were dishonest. >> dana: that memo went out yesterday or sunday before the sunday shows because i saw three people use masterful, theatrical performance. talking points are guidelines. my question for you, bobsh if

you were advisor on the obama campaign and you could see the debate wasn't going well. would you spent the next six days coming up with other excuses or done what president obama did to say not my best performance but i'll do better next time. >> bob: when you make a mistake, it's good in politics. i remember bill clinton did badly at the democratic national committee speech. he then went on jay leno and made fun and played his saxophone. romney got high boost from the first debate. two things to keep in mind. one, the polls show that the enthusiasm gap that romney has now is in his favor over obam obama. now this means that the democrats' base because they fear romney could be elected is enthusiastic. the swing voter polls in swing state they ask about taking position on this, after the

debate, obama 43, romney 20. connects well with ordinary americans. obama 69. romney 7. so i think that rom lom has work to make up for himself but he did a good job. he did give himself another shot at this. the boosts like that, the boosts go away. >> dana: you pretty much the whole block so now we can kick it around the rest of the time. when you look at the number on the enthusiasm that bob mentioned, republicans are well more enthusiastic than democrats. if you are the obama campaign you get the numbers today. what goes through your mind about the $150 million you spent? >> kimberly: somebody better do something fast. this isn't going well for him. bob, you studied this historically for many, many years. >> bob: many, many, many years. >> kimberly: also you look at the gallop polls that is the biggest jump. >> bob: the biggest. >> kimberly: in all time in a presidential debate. vu have to say -- you have to

say that is disconcerting for obama. >> dana: eric in here. i don't think we had time to make a graph. we have the paperwork. the pew poll came out and romney ahead by four points. he went up four points in less than two-and-a-half weeks. pretty good. >> eric: you know what this is? you talk about the talking point that came out before the sunday shows. theatrical performance. day after debate it was liar, liar, liar. this is a sign of desperation. the campaign is in panic mode because they're seeing the polls move. no matter what they do, they spent $200 million on necktive attack ads on romney and this is what they're getting? a landslide away from obama. they're panicked. i'm not sure what the next one is. liar, liar, liar. who knows what? no one else -- >> dana: i said this morning they'd start calling him ugly. >> greg: never do that. i have a point. we keep calling this a jump.

it wasn't a jump. snake river canyon. obama stunk up that place like a bathroom. no wonder he had to go to moron valley to seek solace. this was so de stating that he danieled other people. other people not in the room. >> dana: collateral damage. >> greg: the media complex is main sleighting prozac. media matters is on suicide watch. bill maher had to double the intake of prostitutes. that's how depressed they are. >> bob: that could be a little overstatement. >> greg: we haven't heard from him. he disappeared. >> bob: in swing states the poll after the debate and the democrats and republican poll is honest and truthful, romney is down 14%. talks about is a strong leader, down 23%. willing to change his position at any given time 20. %. that's all he gets. romney still has problems left to go.

expectations for obama were sky high going in the debate. >> dana: i don't think so. you said it earlier. i don't think so. the expectations were romney were high because if he had not done well we'd talk about how the campa shambles and how we figure out a way to talk about the finish line. >> bob: he did well because expectations were low. >> eric: he was more prepared and more ready. >> bob: i said that. >> dana: another problem that obama's team has. detailed in the "new york times" today. second time that somebody on background on the obama campaign said that obama has distain for romney. >> kimberly: you can tell. >> dana: disdain is looking down at somebody. half the country looks down at the white house at the rest of america. that is why quietly the polls are going up. the disdain shows. what has eever done?

>> greg: disdain for academic. >> bob: romney wins distain overwhelmingly. >> dana: why? >> bob: i don't know. when 70% of the people say he connects with the ordinary person. it's a conspiracy. >> eric: we talk about something else here, day after the debate. probably the first time in four years plus that president obama had anyone speak to him that way. has anyone attack his views. >> kimberly: look him in the eye like a man. here is your problem. if the vote were held today -- >> bob: if the vote were held today, obama would win. >> kimberly: don't forget the 45-49 romney advantage. >> dana: we have more to come in the debate. this thursday night, megyn kelly and bret baier will leave fox's coverage of the vice presidential debate.

we will have analysis on friday. here today, governor of california took emergency steps over the weekend to lower the highest price of gas ever in his state. should the rest of the country follow his lead? that's what we're going to talk about next on "the five." ♪ ♪ back to new york and my

colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: welcome back. gas prices seat new record. average price of one gallon now at $4.67. that is 22% more than the u.s. average. that sprung jerry brown to action. he directed the california regulators to relax fall control. oil refineries could release

supply of cheaper fuel. if it's good for one state, whee not good for 57, president obama. >> dana: the secretary of energy thought it would be good idea to have european gas prices. now long beach, the average, $4.60. highest one in long beach was $6.65. imagine you drive along the highway you need to get gas and you see that. the environmental regulations across the board are -- well, not fair that california then can wave theirs. they have -- they got carved off early on. energy legislation. >> eric: they added additional regulation to california. just bringing it down to the rest. the question is if that works. using regulation for the gas prices, bob, why don't we reduce the regulations? >> bob: the two biggest

refineries in california were offline for a month. because of the electricity problems. if you take the biggest refineries and you knock them out, i assume it means that demand would run up above of supply. you are a capitalist -- >> eric: you increase supply. the way you do it not just refineries in california. use the supply -- but we can't because of the regulation. >> kimberly: that is a problem if you overregulate like that. now a crisis situation of their own making in many respects. some of the ardent environmentalists want to see refineries in the line. tremendous impact on the jobs. look at prices. how are they supposed to get to work. california is all about the driving. >> bob: they are coming back online now. you can't say if a third of increase goes down you don't see supply in increase. >> eric: $4.67 in california. $3.6 of 5 in new jersey because of the location.

if you open up the country for gas, it doesn't matter where you refine it -- >> bob: i'm asking if you have an advantage, cut off, do you have an increase, right? >> eric: sure. if you increase by a third. price goes up. >> kimberly: only get it from there. >> greg: this is president obama's war on women. how will young single women get to planned parenthood if gasoline is expensive. who is unaffected by this? celebrities who rail against fracking who rail against the ski-tone pipeline -- keystone pipeline. leo dicaprios who come out against this stuff. as a rich liberal they don't believe others should have the freedom to drive the way they do. you are right. america is not a european country. it takes hours to get from france to england by a train. it's a freight train. america is made for cars and

matt damon should be forced to drive a solar powered windmill. >> dana: want to see him pedaling it. >> greg: me, too. good for his thighs. >> dana: i have a question, how easy governor brown paid, right? if they really want all the regulations why don't they stick with their guns and make people pay it? >> eric: celebrities can come out against fracking and for solar, whatever, solyndra and then the prices go up. then they go it doesn't matter. i can afford it. meanwhile, the rest of california is struggling, choking. $5 for a gallon. >> eric: do you think bam -- >> bob: do you think obama administration wants $5 a gallon? >> greg: yes. they said so. >> bob: chu said that. not the president. he said he would like to see that it high? >> kimberly: hope we learn a lesson from this, crisis in california to see where we are headed with the extreme ideas over the energy policy.

instead of energy independenc independence. >> dana: they passed a climate change bill going in effect this fall they will start paying. who do you think has to pay for that? customers. >> eric: one blend, one grain of gasoline nationally, prices will drop substantially. coming up -- [ overtalking ] >> eric: ready for this feel good story? fists fly in philly between guest of wedding parties. one is dead and others are arrested. bob is up on "the five." ♪ ♪

>> bob: wild scene at a hotel in philadelphia this weekend, reminds me of my past life. a fight broke out between dozen of guests at two wedding parties. a kid with a cell phone captured the chaos. the brawl reportedly started between two brothers that somehow guests from a second wedding party who pulled in.

one of the brides died of a heart attack at the scene. have you ever been at a scene like this before? >> eric: this is the one you have to be first with? no, i haven't been. fights before, but not at a wedding. this is terrible. tragic. >> bob: somebody died. >> greg: the person died connected to the brawl, though? but you get the feeling that if the liberty bell was not in philadelphia it never would have been cracked. >> bob: that is a good point. supposed to be the capital of our country, too, and something about philadelphia where they fights are, the you know, the philadelphia eagles fans are amongst the worst in the country. >> eric: and the flyers. >> greg: phillies. >> bob: something in the water or the blood or something. >> greg: or in philly. >> bob: i know you haven't been to a scene like this before, i hope. >> dana: that was a press briefing. >> greg: you got in a fistfight this morning. >> eric: going to be in a fistfight with you one of these days. >> bob: you have been

through two weddings, and did you have fights break out in either one? >> kimberly: no. never fights. >> bob: they were quick. >> kimberly: so helpful this type of discussion. bob loves it. pay back. >> bob: at the end of the show, this is when i get to stories like this. i don't know where to carry this from here except i remember being at a wedding reception, my sister's actually, where maid of honor father dropped dead of a heart attack. that got everybody to stop doing what they were doing. and looking at him. kept dancing after that. okay. all i can say, you see the wedding --dais no, no, no. >> bob: i'm not going to think about doing that. i want to -- don't you want to talk about this? >> kimberly: no. >> bob: why not? >> kimberly: i'm covering my ears. i don't want you to yell. >> bob: i'm going to say one more thing. >> kimberly: you can't control yourself. that's why my hands are over my ears. >> bob: you weren't scared

on that. ♪ ♪

>> kimberly: all right. time for one more thing. bob, it's nice to have you back this week. you were hiding out in your hope and change snuggie crying after the debate. >> bob: i was. sorry, i came out from

underneath it. a friend of mine died on october 1. valerie pinson who worked with me in the carter white house. she started off as switchboard operator at the pentagon and went on to become a special assistant to a close personal advisor to president lyndon johnson. she worked on the war on poverty. she did enormous work in the liaison office with me and carter administration. strong woman advocate and strong in the civil rights movement. one of the most tremendous people i have met in my life. she taught me a life. she died. a lot of us who will miss her terribly, pass on to her daughter tracy and her granddaughter maya you had a wonderful mother and grandmother and couldn't ask for anybody better. sweet woman. i know she is in especially looking down on us now. i'll -- she is in heaven looking down on us. i'll miss her very much. >> kimberly: very sweet. >> eric: i want to let everyone know david axelrod, yes, he did text me and

said -- guess what? it's fundraising. over the weekend, yesterday, drew brees broke unitas 52-year-old record. do we have it? hopefully. >> wide open. there it is. drew brees to henderson. >> eric: all right. so the most games in a row with a touchdown pass bay quarterback. 52 years. brady has 37 games in a row currently. he is on brees' heel. good guy, by the way. >> kimberly: right? nice guy. class act. >> bob: visions of 180-degrees and he can see that. is why he is good. he goes back to here. it's amazing. remarkable player. >> kimberly: jets and whole quarterback -- >> bob: forget about that. >> bob: don't get bolling

started on tebow. dana tell us about something delicious. >> dana: this is a tragedy of national proportions. starbucks has run out in many places of the pumpkin spice latte syrup. this is tragic for some people. guy in the "wall street journal" that is quoted saying i just left. commercial real estate analyst. who lives here. i don't think my uncle or cousins would be complaining but bob, i thought you would, you would be terribly upset about this. >> bob: i don't drink coffee. i have been in a starbucks once to use a bathroom. the line outside of staff bucs still amazes me why? >> dana: this is cool. i thought eric would like this. one of the guys found a box of pumpkin spice latte stuff. $6.95 a box. he put it on ebay for $15 sold it right away. >> kimberly: i would have bought that. my girlfriend was just saying

how good pumpkin spice latte. >> greg: it sounds like there is a lacko-lantern. >> kimberly: using your time well. lack-o-lat tern. >> greg: time for casper news. ♪ ♪ >> greg: i have only had casper for three days. he is toilet trained, well versed in adult sign language and origami, dana. he won best looking dog if your city. given the key to the city by former president george w. bush. who flew out here and said i have never seen a dog this awesome. i feel sorry for people with inferior beasts. >> dana: on friday night, as i just bending over with the plastic bag on my hand to pick up after jasper, the original, this guy is in his car yelling out the window, danna, huge fan! is that jasper orcas